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The Right- Liberal problem with identity politics

It is important to critique an anti- Western, vindictive, jealous ideology incapable of basic survival, that decries the womb as a patriarchal construct. But adopting real problems for the civilisational crises’ grappling the West, will require more than mocking a few shrieking, brainwashed Social Justice Warriors.

Nor for the reasons Oz Conservative brilliantly describes, is it sufficient we argue the very concept of identity is inherently toxic.

For such a view would leave the West atomised, individualised and ultimately disarmed, against collectivist hordes which think of their group first, and put their group first.

Without some type of shared group identity, whether it be a civic, racial, ethnic, or religious form, there will be nothing to bind individuals together at the broader level.

The ensuing consequences of this hyper individualist approach, is a society profoundly incapable of sustaining itself against any external or internal enemies. As aptly put by Oz Conservative: “If you assume that you live in a society that only exists as a collection of self-creating individuals with no distinct ties to each other, then what is there really at the larger level to defend?”


“It’s no alternative,” Oz Conservative, March 10, 2018:

The two main political alternatives today are both unhelpful. The left is pushing an “identity” politics in which white men are held to be privileged oppressors who have to be brought down. But the mainstream right response to this isn’t much better. Here is a quote from an interview between Andrew Bolt and Brendan O’Neill, prominent Australian right liberals:

This is just liberalism 101. The idea is that the highest good in life is to be an autonomous, self-determining individual. Therefore, whatever is predetermined in life is a hindrance, a limitation, a box, a prison that the individual has to be liberated from. The biological things are predetermined, therefore we have to escape from our sex, our race, our ethny. All that matters is what we choose for ourselves, or (as per Jordan Peterson) what we achieve for ourselves.

And so Western man doesn’t get to identify positively with manhood (as this is a “box” to be escaped from); nor does he get to identify with his own larger communal tradition. There is no coherent basis for defending this tradition, as for right liberals there are only self-creating individuals who have escaped the older identities.

It’s important to remember this when you wonder why older generations of Western men did not do more to defend the existence of the West. If you assume that you live in a society that only exists as a collection of self-creating individuals with no distinct ties to each other, then what is there really at the larger level to defend? A person with this mindset will think that everything is OK, as long as the economy is healthy enough for individuals to pursue careers.

Andrew Bolt once wrote that he believed in,

The humanist idea that we are all individuals, free to make our own identities

Consider the implications of this. It means that identity doesn’t really connect us to anything much. I begin and end with myself. It’s the same problem that liberalism always faces. If I am free to make something however I like, then that something loses most of its meaning, as it could be anything at all depending on my own subjective whims. And that is what liberalism is saying about my identity: that it doesn’t mean very much, because it could be anything, because it has to be freely chosen in any direction according to my own subjective preferences.

The traditional view of identity was different. A given identity was significant enough to orient me in my sense of self; to connect me to transcendent sources of meaning; to orient me, in part, to my telos(to the ends or purposes for which I was created); to connect me in a significant way to a particular people, place, culture, history and tradition; and to inspire a love for the good within my given identity and within my particular tradition and therefore to inspire a willingness to uphold and contribute to the particular culture, society and way of life that I belonged to. The traditional notion of identity engaged me in a way that the liberal one does not and cannot.

And that is one reason why Western man, if he continues to pursue a right liberal outlook, will fall alone.

5 thoughts on “The Right- Liberal problem with identity politics

    1. Yeah I think at times right Liberals do understand themselves as being part of the Australian civic structure and impliedly indicate so. But then they also profess that collectivism and group identity is an evil to be opposed. So inconsistency is the real problem here. Either these people openly embrace some type of nationalism that necessarily discriminates against others, or they embrace an open borders which blatantly discriminates against the native born. It’s one or the other, and we need to make this aspect clear.

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